Maybe Jones can point to the examples in Scripture where God used lightning for a fire. Harry Dematrillia -- A strongly gifted prophet who ministered often with Bob Jones in the early days of the Kansas City . Many who are into the visions of Jones also have seen the white horse who represents a sovereign move of the Spirit of truth and power. [!] Morningstar Prophetic Newsletter. For information see: www.wayoflife.org/about/makeanoffering.html. Bob Jones first became known by being part of the Kansas city prophets back in the 1980's. During this time period there was a group called Grace Ministries' ministerial team which consisted of Paul Cain, Bob Jones, John Paul Jackson, David Parker, Jim Goll, Francis Frangipane and Mike Bickle that were of the former the Kansas City . His estate included an 11,000-square-foot home near Dallas, a condominium in Florida, a yacht, and other assets worth $90 million. Help me, Lord Jesus. How can any of this be attributed to God when Jones is so far removed from understanding the word of God, preaching the word of God and replaces it with new words from his mystical experiences that are not even related to Biblical concepts. And you the children of God will come into that Papa/ son relationship. coming into that Divine Nature of Jesus Christ[Bob Jones, transcribed from 1988 tape Interview Bob Jones with Mike Bickle). Viola and I, we dearly loved them. .until he met Mike Bickle. . . Who kisses men and absorbs people, More recently on this video Man, you open the door to the devil every time. As they were burying them the Lord told me, This isnt the last. Thats the purpose so that Jesus in the last days has the seeds that will glorify Him above any generation that has ever been upon the face of the earth. Instagram, 13 Feb. 2023, https://www.instagram.com/p/Colp6OgrUu-/. This false prophet can only gain access into the lives of those who are already deluded by their rejection of the LORD and His holy truth (2 Thess. Below you will find a handful of new images from last night, Nigh 43 of the Florida Revival and Healing Outpouring. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Design a site like this with WordPress.com, In discussing Bob Jones disqualifying history, heres my comment and a response from one commentator, ALLEGED SUPERNATURAL EXPERIENCES IN HIS EARLY DAYS. Get out of here! So Bob, brokenhearted, and Viola drew back from the church as they were kicked out of it and said. I first met Bob Jones in the mid 1970's, but the first major prophetic word I heard him give was at the debriefing meeting held by Derek Prince after the '77 Charismatic Renewal Conference. Little or no Scripture is ever mentioned. magazine, and pastor of the 2,000-member Tabernacle Church in Melbourne, Florida. and they would accept me in their midst. Because Bob had had a long history of rejection over a number of years cause every time he prophesied, something would happen. .very distinct from anything Ive ever heard of or seen, or boy, I tell you, it was totally bizarre, and most of those events run over an 18-month period. Besides that, he was never a member. (Testimony Letter 11-Full report below). 4:00 into the video) we find Jones telling us the the same story abortion would increase, homosexuality would increase and aids would be incurable and there would be an epidemic of drugs (not anything that someone who watches the culture could not predict). . OPH ,p. 2) And the reason I get talking about BobBob is so integral in the first 18 months of our history, because the Lord ordained it. If you have marks on your body from sleeping and entering demonic warfare during that time you have some very serious spiritual problems. GODMEN, plural! Bob spoke about some things to occur, and gave Mike a personal, seemingly, supernatural word of prophecy, that convinced Mike he was from God, throwing out all of the red flags and other warnings, embracing everything Bob said, and actually building his ministry upon Bobs revelations! Yesterday a precious family member, Viola Jones, passed away at her home near Statesville, North Carolina. Jones explains to us that his healing power came when he was struck by lightning: It was about 76. There is only one seed we need to be concerned about- it is the word of God which we are actually reborn with (1 Pt.1:23) not a physical seed of man. , March 1992, p. 90), he said there is no higher calling than ecumenical bridge-building. Besides that, he was never a member. Box 838 Pineville, NC 28134-0838. 14:13, NKJV). MB: He said, I havent had visions in two nights! Two nights! Help me. And the voice spoke to me and says, I cant help you, Bob, until you forgive them. Way of Life's content falls into two categories: sharable and non-sharable. I had never heard such a claim. This white horse is to bring to pass the former moves of God that took place overtime. To where you can rest from your labors and God will work His work through you in your rest and in your peace. Bob was known as one of the remarkable prophetic . February 27, 2023 . He was not under submission to the pastor. My wife, who never missed a service and has a better memory than I do, verifies this fact. He was not, and I emphasize not, asked to leave our church. I watched one interview on TV where the translator was trying to salvage what appeared to be the ramblings of a man that was not coherent in his speech and had to reinterpret nearly everything said. Jones statements are not only unbiblical but cryptic except to the initiated. The accompanying story said that the two spent three nights in a five-star hotel which Hinn booked under a false name. You are also welcome to use excerpts from the articles in your writings, in sermons, in church bulletins, etc. but also there was a pull of the youth into immorality, drugs, and alcohol. Header Images: Kansas City Chiefs [@chiefs]. They wont do anything to you.to him. Bob Jones experienced correction., not rejection. I listened to your tape earlier; and this past Sunday someone gave me a copy of your letter to Mike Bickle of April 4. This angel is supposedly at work with freshfires revival meetings. And a ball of fire danced all over that basement, and didnt hurt me. This is actually grace for the church now, because 100% accuracy in this ministry would bring a level of accountability to the church which she is too immature to bear at this time. *This is a common, yet dangerous, erroneous mindset many people in the prophetic/apostolic movement entertain. The trail of the Latter Rain continues to unfold, even though it was rejected in the late 40s, its acceptance today is by those who are unfamiliar with its past. Many years later is when he entered into our world. Bob said, The Lord told me in September, 82, I would sit around the communion table of this group. Below you will find a handful of new images from last night, Nigh 43 of the Florida Revival and Healing Outpouring. This is very troubling! Every sign and wonder thats ever been will be many times in the last days.They themselves; will be that generation thats raised up to put death itself underneath their feet and to glorify Christ in every way. Most ministries in Kansas City who had contact with him did not believe his prophecies and visions were truly from God. . The Rev. Their home in Tampa was valued at $2.22 million and the condo in New York, at $3.5 million. We were involved with the youth leaders, and we even gave them quite a bit of land in Lake Ozarks. , December 2004). Other pastors in Kansas City acknowledged that; The exaggerated stories of rejection gain sympathy for Bob and fit into their theology of prophets being people who have had to deal with rejection all their lives. They were killed on a motorcycle two days later. MB: Because they were in sin. At the same time, it was clear Paul was a gifted prophet. Bob Jones went home to be with the Lord on Valentines Day 2014. In 2020, GOD TV reported about Bob Jones' prophecy on the Kansas City Chiefs. Although their parents will reign over them and be the leaders of the last-day church, their children will possess the Spirit without measure. , December 2015, Bakker agreed with Tom Horns prediction that the Antichrist will come in 2016. , June 3, 1988, p. 5). Here is the transcript from Prophet Bob Jones from the Florida Revival and Healing Outpouring in Lakeland, Florida. what did it look like? Jones- It looked like gold and it looked like light and it was a light not like the light you see here which is artificial, he responded, adding that the light, the glory of the Lord, frightened him. Looks like we have our future all mapped out and Jesus has told Jones he is not coming for the church in the next 50 years. . The cancer was trying to have me, but THE WORD OF GOD SAID I WAS HEALED THROUGH WHAT JESUS DID ON CALVARY. . 5(If anyone does not know how to manage his own family, how can he take care of Gods church?) I said, A movement? He said, Oh, the Lord told me you wouldnt know anything about it. for Oct. 29, 2015, the church is standing with its crooked leaders (City Harvest Founder Kong Hee Thanks Congregation for Grace and Love as Wife Sun Ho Is Ordained as Pastor, Oct. 29, 2015). He was backslidden and had been out of the church for over a year in the Navy. 7He must also have a good reputation with outsiders, so that he will not fall into disgrace and into the devils trap. 1 Timothy 3:1-7, Bobs spurious history began early, with three discrepant ages reported, by himself and his web site. Two nights! - www.wayoflife.org. Sir Bob Jones gave up drinking a year ago and says he still feels like a young man. Home Secretary Suella Braverman has expressed her concern after police recorded a 'hate incident' at a school after pupils caused 'slight damage' to a copy of the Quran when it fell on the floor . BOB JONES WINDS UP IN A MENTAL INSTITUTION BJ: In my late 30s, my nerves wentI went to Topeka (the Veterans Hospital mental ward); I signed in and I immediately run off and I got in hell again, so they took me back and I thought, Ive got to set it out. So I walked the halls out there night and day. MB: And after (over 20) years of alcoholism and street fighting and all the gambling and etc., etc., and so now, he is so steeped in alcoholism BJ: It was hell. T he death of Bob Jones, Sr., at age 84 last month closed the era of hard-hitting evangelists of the Billy Sunday ilk, which reached its peak between the two world wars. The 2000's will be the Glory of God. SHORTLY THEREAFTER. Russian Red Army by Bob Jones. Ligle logle lazie logle. Four nations would begin to have open doors into Russia and the fifth nation would be Sweden. . Offering: We take up a quarterly offering to fund this ministry, and those who use the materials are expected to participate (Galatians 6:6) if they can. b. They have been waiting on promises that go back many, many years. I've been looking forward to this episode for a few weeks! and all the other doctors out there said, You might as well put him on the strong stuff: hes found a home. . For no one can lay a foundation other than that which is laid, which is Jesus Christ. concerning this mans behavior, but to my horror the leadership there began to put a great deal of stock in his prophesies. http://www.banner.org.uk/kcp/Abberent%20Practises.pdf p.41, Bob and Mikes VersionA FABRICATED STORY CONCERNING BOB JONES p.42 The following story, which is often told by Mike Bickle to give credibility to Bob Jones as a prophet, is a complete fabrication of facts. Support Here. While in a time of praise, Bob saw an apple tree in full bloom. Also Estonia, Lithuania, Latvia and Finland. Bob's wife Bonnie continues to expand upon Bob's message: "Did you learn to Love ?", and reveals the heart of The father for the coming . For what glory is it, if, when ye be buffeted for your faults, ye shall take it patiently? (1 Peter 2:20). I have no words to express, toward any denial of Bobs disqualification, in light of the facts of his spurious history. Perhaps this is because Swaggart had sought counseling from Oral Roberts, and Roberts had observed demons with long fingernails digging into Swaggarts flesh and had cast them out (. Dager was a pioneer on this subject as he gave a warning of the false prophets that would change the church; the very things we are seeing today. We have been praying for God to expose to the congregation at Kansas City Fellowship the errors in order that so many of Gods sincere people will not be damaged. cause most of them were negativethey threw him out as being in the occult and to putting curses on people. And the whole thing was shut down. And all of his weaknesses and all of his mistakes and all of his other things that are bad, (cause I got to balance this thing out to keep him humble), the Lord still used him. Prophet Bob Jones is pictured here prophesying to the first nations (Native American) people, as well as delivering a powerful word to the believers who came for a touch of Heaven. . Christ can only return when the people of God have reached that place of unity in which the Spirit and the Bride can say, Come (p. 73). a leading member of that church totally repudiate the story as given. The memorial program handed my wife and me at Billy's coffin (crafted by prison inmates), said, "Blessed are the dead who die in the Lord that they may rest from their labors, and their works follow them" (Rev. There was a guide, that he identified as the angel of the Lord who protected him from danger by standing between him and the throne by filtering the rays from God as if the angel was like red sunglasses. He said that he later understood that this was Gods way of calling and commissioning him for their new important earth-changing work that could go out from Americas Midwest, 2. The prophesy was that my church at that time would fail. Well, this one brother comes to me in January, 1983, and he begins to tell me about Bob JonesAnd on March 7, 1983cause I remember the day because it was, it became a very dear day to at least several of us, as the day when the Lord brought Bob into our midst(ROH, p. 6), Although Mike already had a belief in a special Movement and a new order, all of this was not fully developed. A statement issued by Rick Joyner, Jack Deere, and Mike Bickel said: Paul admitted to these sinful practices and was placed under discipline, agreeing to a process of restoration, which the three of us would oversee. Later, Mike Bickle stated publicly that he had promoted Jones improperly. What bothered me the most was Viola and I had some blood kin in there too. This understanding is so important that we have devoted Section III entirely to giving a history of Bob Jones background, providing examples of his bizarre experiences, and establishing his significance to the Movement. We need to remember that signs and wonders alone in no way assure that the source is God. Go kill them or forgive them, Shortly thereafter in 1974 Bob begins having technicolor visions-often between 5 and 10 a night-and supposedly for the next 15 years. Jones claimed to have had 100 "open visions" giving him revelation about this movement. , Aug. 11, 2010). This is all Latter Rain flattery to pump up the churches self esteem which is better identified as dominionism. I would have this comment on the supposed fact that two young people on a motorcycle was proof of his predictionWill and Judy Pliska were accidentally killed by a Christian man who grievously attended the funeral service. Ever since that time in 74 when he was filled with the Holy Spirit he began to see the technicolor visions and the Lord began to visit him. https://thegovernmentalgoalsofgodtvpart2.wordpress.com/2008/09/06/god-tv-and-the-kcp-bob-jones-mike-bickle-john-paul-jackson-paul-cain-and-the-ernie-gruen-report-exposing-them-below/, Bob Jones and Mike Bickle channel demonic revelations. For example, he described in one story (detailed in Section I), how Berean Baptist Church, a highly respected Charismatic church, threw him out. (Testimony Letter 11)When we checked the story with the man who pastured Berean Baptist Church at that time, he told us that Bob Jones had the habit of; dominating the worship and praise time with dire and foreboding propheciessupposedly from Godmostly in the flesh. .he says, Im takin your dope away. I cant live without it. Bickle and Jones relate the story of an angel revealing that God would appear to Bickle and his brother in law and associate pastor Bob Scott in the form of another person named Don through a vision or dream to confirm Jones ministry. Since that time he has seen many, many times, five, ten visions and dreams a night. The devils will move Jones back into signs and wonders if he will avoid these subject matters! Let me highlight the main problems-They will move into things of the supernatural that no one hasever moved in before. Funeral arrangements may be sent to: Reins-Sturdivant 270 . Bob is survived by his loving wife Bonnie Jones; his son Robert Wayne Jones of Lees Summit, MO; Step-son Lyn and his wife Katie Kost of Fort Mill, SC; Step-daughter Kimberly Glover and her husband Doug of Massillon, OH. In a Facebook post by Pastor Vlad Savchuk, he shared in detail about the revival happening on the Asbury campus. He then threw an old bull skin mantle at Bobs feet. published a photo of Hinn and Pentecostal preacher Paula White (who was divorced the previous year) walking hand-in-hand leaving a hotel in Rome. I am passionate in sharing Gods love to the world through the skills and talents God has blessed me with. Well, you are free to believe what you want, but I refuse to believe this mans fantasy tales that are unbiblical to the MAX. (ROH, p. 6)And then he began to proceed to tell me an hour and a half or two hours, though I forgot the time, of this most unbelievable layout of visions that you could ever imagine in your mindIncredible, not like because it was so realisticincredible, like the first time you ever see Star Wars. Their 2020 super bowl win made headlines as it was a historical moment for the Chiefs as it had been 50 long years since their last championship. Vision of the Apple TreeBy Bob JonesJanuary 2014. 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