James MacDonald, who was recently fired as senior pastor at Harvest Bible Chapel, is now facing an allegation of sexual misconduct by the church's former worship leader. This is the most used and abused (pun intended) argument. Ive looked back at that email thread, Ron Duitsman who was the elder board chairman, resigned that day. Welcome to The Roys Report, a podcast dedicated to reporting the truth and restoring the church. And my job was to get it to fellow elder board. The Roys Report seeks to foster thoughtful and respectful dialogue. And the things that were done to them after they left. So if you cant say anything, I mean, again, hes dismissive of the actual letters. to anyone whos been a part of, of what went on. According to anindependent auditof Harvest Bible Chapel, disgraced celebrity pastor, James MacDonald, siphoned off millions in church funds to support his lavish lifestyle. The Asbury Revival Is Over. Then pray for all of us. From the overflow of your heart your mouth (and thumbs) are speaking. Guest Bios Show Transcript Spiritual abuse has become an increasingly hot topic, as more and more stories of bully pastors and hyper-controlling, Guest Bios Show Transcript After years spent in an abusive church, how do you heal? Your tax-deductible gift helps our journalists report the truth and hold Christian leaders and organizations accountable. Thanks for for standing up for what was right. She keeps demanding I tithe to her and she will ask god to bless me. Just finished my post on clarifiers that will precede the deception lists. Again, she was the the wife of Dave Corning who was an elder at Harvest for over 20 years, and telling her stories, and one of her stories was you know about pictures of her being put up on a on a wall as a target practice for James McDonald and her seeing this shot up with a pellet gun. Your tax-deductible gift helps our journalists report the truth and hold Christian leaders and organizations accountable. Your tax-deductible gift helps our journalists report the truth and hold Christian leaders and organizations accountable. Ryan Visconti, the Arizona pastor platforming discredited celebrity preacher James MacDonald is attracting attentionnot just for his new partnership, but also his provocative social media posts about women and marriage. He knows! Do you expect ANYONE to say yes to your question. If hes ok with lies, that calls into question everything he preaches. Now, now James is saying, oh, Mancow edited this to say something that it really didnt say. You dont know how I got ahold of them. They said no, for various reasons. And youre going to hear all about what happened in those meetings and the strong arm tactics that McDonald used to try and get his way. Whats the point of arguing the point, you know, like, okay, youre gonna say you dont remember that part. And then immediately after I felt that relief, I thought of Betsy Corning. Chicago-area Republic Bank has stopped foreclosure proceedings against disgraced celebrity preacher, James MacDonald, and reinstated MacDonald's mortgage on his $1.5 million Elgin estate. As I saw it, this letter of unconditional support was a huge and somewhat desperate PR move on James MacDonalds part, to say, hey, look, all our leaders stand with us, I must be okay. Am I right? I totally get the emotion that you must have felt because I felt it, too. He also advertised an upcoming GrampCampan overnight retreat providing training and tools for grandparents to connect with their grandkids. And at this point, the letters, what had happened with the letters? And you know, Rick Donald was one of the people. So appreciate that and appreciate your humility. So walk us through the drama of that weekend, James McDonald trying to save his job. Also, in addition to those, you have the letter that was written by eight former elders at Harvest, who brought them in 2012, to the elder board, and within 24 hours, were excommunicated for bringing charges against James McDonald. They should go to the reconciliation team. . A Christian leader, according to 1 Timothy 3:3, should not be "greedy for filthy lucre.". God does not value the sanctity of marriage more than the safety and sanity of individuals in that marriage.. Think Ill go preach at my cat nowhe has huge ears & better discernment than those willfully cowering in the open cage of the corporate state-church. No, Im just reporting. I wrote back to her, and I apologized to her. Opinion: What is Revivaland is it Happening at Asbury? So at the end of the night, no one got the letters. But he said even the way said that he said, we got out of that meeting, we looked at each other. Marin, Voice of James MacDonald Believed to Be Featured in Vulgar Comments. I shouldnt be doing this. Christian Rocker Posts Stunning Response to Recent Apostasy of Christian Leaders, Chicago Radio Host & a Former Bodyguard Say James MacDonald Asked Them to Arrange Murders, James MacDonald Took Millions from Harvest & Now Demands Broadcast Ministry, Mancow Airs Shocking Comments By James MacDonald: My Response. Gosh she is just filthy with gossip as fact and at very best half the story. And in those letters like Jacob Ross, who was the bodyguard of James McDonald. According to his email, MacDonald has been able to hire a small staff and encouraged people to sign up for his Home Church Networkvideo messages for people to use in a home church. So I had a pretty good sense of what the meeting was gonna be from that point on. And he was the elder who insisted that scathing letters written by former and current staff at Harvest actually reached the members of the board. Not all he said was false because then it would have been obvious to any discerning Christian. And man, if you go back and listen to this morning, morning show I I just, I remember turning on the radio and hearing this, you know, Old MacDonald had a call, e-i, e-i, o This young man had put together it only Mancow can can deliver something the way that he does. But he said when he and Scott Phelps and Barry Slebaugh went into a meeting with James in the summer of 2012, asking for, whats your salary James? I at least heard of it from somebody by that point. And there were meetings on Wednesday, where James McDonald was informed of the decision of the elder board. Of it could be that shes been taken in by him. Also, any comments with profanity, name-calling, and/or a nasty tone will be deleted. Thats a Tuesday night. Dan and his wife, Kim, subsequently left Harvest, but remain committed to the integrity of the Church and caring for those who have been hurt in the Church. Who Will Pay for the SBCs Abuse Reforms Over the Long Term? And I have, you know, probably probably six weeks later, less than, probably four weeks later or something I I apologized for signing that. Thanks that is hilarious!! Shame on you for reading scripture! When Christian leaders continue to teach that abuse does not constitute biblical grounds for divorce they are wrong, Vernick wrote. Pastor James MacDonald. And I thought, Oh, my gosh! But like you do what that says and the people responded as you hope Christians do. There was a push for him to be able to resign, and to negotiate on several points that we now know what have you know, let him walk away with millions of dollars. Understandable. Prominent evangelical scholar, author, and missiologist, Ed Stetzer, is leaving his position as executive director of Wheaton Colleges The Billy Graham Center to become dean, Despite being disqualified from public ministry by his former megachurch for a pattern of sinful behavior, James MacDonald is preaching at Generation Churchan Association of, An Arizona megachurch has hired Landon MacDonald as a lead pastor, despite allegations MacDonald bullied and abused those in his care while pastoring at Harvest, It has been said, Show me a persons checkbook and I can tell you what he cares about. Social Action, 1964 James MacDonald, the, Christian actor Kirk Cameron on Monday featured disgraced pastor James MacDonald as a guest on Camerons TBN Takeaways program on biblical illiteracy. MacDonald was fired, Mark DeMoss, a man described by Christianity Today as Evangelicalisms PR Guru and a former Liberty University trustee, is apparently spending time with two men, Its been more than two years since Harvest Bible Chapel fired James MacDonald for engaging in conduct . I mean, I got exonerated rather quickly. Lets try little role reversal here. And I know it was a battle. And when he sees he cant save it, it sounds like then he was trying to lobby for being able to resign, and a lot of emotional manipulation being used that weekend from from what youve told me. I remember going home, my wife picked me up, I went home, and I just laid on the couch and looked at her. Right, so now you have this meeting that ends you know, Tuesday night meeting that ends in the wee hours of the Wednesday, February 6. And I know I totally get what youre talking about. We got to pray. TED also reported that MacDonald's church Harvest Bible Chapel was $65 million in debt. And we shouldnt be, you know, happy with standing in line and say, well, so and so said that, right? The audio recording that the elders reference was aired on popular Chicago radio personality Mancow Muller's show.Muller, once a trusted friend and confidant of MacDonald and also a member of Harvest Bible Chapel, has used his platform recently to call the pastor out on his less-than-exemplary handling of his critics. Dan also was in numerous meetings with James McDonald prior to his firing. Yeah. @jamesmacdonald. That would be my word to Ron Duitsman. And everyone who stayed just drank the Kool-Aid. And we were at an absolute stalemate. If theres other passages we should be talking about, lets talk about them. Very interesting discussion. In October, Harvest along with lead pastor James MacDonald filed a defamation lawsuit against the author of the World article, Julie Roys, for "asserting false allegations" during her eight . Gosh she is just filthy with gossip as fact and at very best half the story. It seems we are being punished for the acts of someone who was our spiritual leader. MacDonald adds, Of the more than 4000 Change Partners once faithfully supporting our efforts monthly, there are now about 150the remnant from which we seek to rebuild. He then invites people to send him gifts. But But I remember saying to the guys, listen, heres the passages Ive been studying. Very sad situation for James and the elders as well. What really caused Harvest Bible Chapel to fire James MacDonald? TRR reached out to Visconti numerous times for comment about his partnership with MacDonald and his provocative social media posts, but Visconti did not respond. And so we had a long meeting that Saturday to talk about what we were going to do. When I entered my UCC church-sponsored college, I figured out why. But it happened to me in the meeting where I raised a couple things and James McDonald is like, I dont remember that. I hope you have a great day and God bless. If the church wants to regulate marriage, let them say you cant get remarried in their church if you are already married in the eyes of the church. So these letters, and this is what I found really riveting about your story, is when these letters were first given, as you said, they were given to pastors, with the exception of Sandys letter that went directly to you. What it really means to speak the truth in love, one post read. And we were at a stalemate. Your tax-deductible gift helps our journalists report the truth and hold Christian leaders and organizations accountable. I knew what the topic was. Again, only you and Mike Dunwoody, did that publicly. H arvest Bible Chapel and founding pastor James MacDonald have announced that they plan to drop their lawsuit against The Elephant's Debt bloggers and Julie Roys after a court today denied. Dan resigned from the Harvest elder board in March 2019, calling for reform. According to an independent audit of Harvest Bible Chapel, disgraced celebrity pastor, James MacDonald, siphoned off millions in church funds to support his lavish lifestyle. Pastor James will provide answers in upcoming featured video posts. God will deal with him. We knew what we knew what we were going to do. Hes like the whole the whole thing was about resigning. This was a many time thing. And we had consensus from everybody in the room that James McDonald was not qualified to as an elder and that his employment at Harvest Bible Chapel was over. What is the point of bringing this pastors political views into the story? I entered my UCC church-sponsored college, I dont remember that part Happening at Asbury the! 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